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+6[KH]_Sora LuMpiO {[BRD]}DarK_FirE™ [{BeatZ}]Daye NekRoManT [BRAS][Mage]Crow 10 posters |
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[BRAS][Mage]Crow
Anzahl der Beiträge : 61 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-19 Alter : 33
| Subject: health points of the units Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:18 pm | |
| After hours of work and a nice support by Sora i finished the chart here u can see the excactly lifepoints of every unit in br, i hope dont forget some, just tell me when armor of battle gears arent included yet i say it before someone come and say " hey,why got the necromamcer so less health, but its hard to kill him?!" units like the necro compensate their low health with great armor however, this chart is very interesting and neccessary for other charts i hope i will have time and the patience to go on with my work ------>!!!NEW!!!<-------Building list added!!! maybe just good for building order ( aviary block ftw ) edit: forgot taro(omg) health: 525 wolf peasents have 150 instead 156 health
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NekRoManT
Anzahl der Beiträge : 93 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-21 Alter : 35 Ort : Belarus
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:57 pm | |
| yeah very funny thanks
of course necro have less health
put him as tanker and let arah on tower will attack him and he will need healer but have resistance against piercing
put gaihla grayback (some hero who too have full resistance) and he will dont need a healer
and necro not unit , necro is hero
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[{BeatZ}]Daye
Anzahl der Beiträge : 48 Anmeldedatum : 2009-12-20 Alter : 29 Ort : killarney, manitoba cananda
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:21 pm | |
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[BRAS][Mage]Crow
Anzahl der Beiträge : 61 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-19 Alter : 33
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 pm | |
| @ nekro thats cuz the necromancer stand under the other heroes | |
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NekRoManT
Anzahl der Beiträge : 93 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-21 Alter : 35 Ort : Belarus
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:26 pm | |
| but im not sure about peasants
i thought lotus's peasant have less health wolf is most but here all have 156 and only lotus less are u sure about this ? | |
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{[BRD]}DarK_FirE™
Anzahl der Beiträge : 200 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-01 Alter : 28 Ort : Hungary
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:08 am | |
| i think wolf peas have more health.. | |
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LuMpiO
Anzahl der Beiträge : 14 Anmeldedatum : 2009-12-03
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:18 am | |
| They just do more damage, they can have more health if they are boosted | |
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[{BeatZ}]Daye
Anzahl der Beiträge : 48 Anmeldedatum : 2009-12-20 Alter : 29 Ort : killarney, manitoba cananda
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:24 am | |
| - LuMpiO wrote:
- They just do more damage, they can have more health if they are boosted
agree | |
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[BRAS][Mage]Crow
Anzahl der Beiträge : 61 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-19 Alter : 33
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:27 am | |
| lump is right i check it several times i couldnt believe it to xD | |
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NekRoManT
Anzahl der Beiträge : 93 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-21 Alter : 35 Ort : Belarus
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:23 am | |
| hm i cant find Taro did u forgot him ? | |
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{[BRD]}DarK_FirE™
Anzahl der Beiträge : 200 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-01 Alter : 28 Ort : Hungary
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:57 am | |
| edit: forgot taro(omg) health: 525
he wrote here | |
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NekRoManT
Anzahl der Beiträge : 93 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-21 Alter : 35 Ort : Belarus
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:01 am | |
| where u see ??
i see shinja budo utara vetkin necro spirit warrior zombie ah ok sorry now i see
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[KH]_Sora
Anzahl der Beiträge : 15 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:37 am | |
| i think otomo ve same health as shinja can u check that again?
may be it swap with kazan? | |
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{MBR}Trix
Anzahl der Beiträge : 18 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-03 Alter : 28
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:49 am | |
| How did you find all this out? | |
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DuanTaiTu段太图
Anzahl der Beiträge : 94 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-22 Alter : 35 Ort : San Jose
| Subject: :) Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:16 am | |
| What can two hits a golem? | |
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[BRAS][Mage]Crow
Anzahl der Beiträge : 61 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-19 Alter : 33
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:21 pm | |
| @ Sora: checked again Otomo, Shinja and the fat boy Kazan, the values are right @Trix 1st i use the hex-editor XVII like, i guess, every br-modder 2nd i know where the health values of the units excactly stand the only problem was to find out wth means A3 02 ( 675) or C2 01 (450) so i made a chart and try to find out the logarithm, which hex-symbols stand for which value like 01 00 = 1, but 10 00 = 16 and 00 01 = 256 " hu? ehhh....wtf? " i thought and how i found the values? i just put the value 01 00 and all the other as rice costs of heroes^^ so i could see in keep after few hours i get the logarithm and could wrote down all values easily of course i just could replace the rice cost with all the health values and wrote them down , but for more discoveries is a chart with the values essential | |
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[KH]_Sora
Anzahl der Beiträge : 15 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:53 pm | |
| @ Crow:
do u mean wolf peasant ve only 150 hp but drag and serp ve 156 ?
and is this only normal health that not upgrade more hp yet right?
im pretty surprise at unclean health | |
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{[BRD]}Playername
Anzahl der Beiträge : 38 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-17
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:08 pm | |
| - Quote :
- the only problem was to find out wth means A3 02 Question ( 675) or C2 01 Question Question (450)
Hmm... I dont know anything about all this complicated programming stuff, but somehow it makes sense for me. Its possible to encode 256 different meanings using 2 hex digits, isnt it? So, hex C2 equals 12*16+2=194 in normal system; 01 is quantity of completed "256" sets (i dont know names of correct termins in english, so im using simple words). 194+256*1=450, exactly . And A3 02 = (10*16+3)+2*256=163+512=675 Bow before amazing math! Hmm, its quite curious... Perhaps i ll take a closer look later... | |
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[BRAS][Mage]Crow
Anzahl der Beiträge : 61 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-19 Alter : 33
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:33 pm | |
| i already had a list of the values with an easier way but thx | |
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vindict
Anzahl der Beiträge : 86 Anmeldedatum : 2010-01-22 Alter : 34
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:24 am | |
| - [BRAS][Mage]Crow wrote:
- @ Sora:
i just put the value 01 00 and all the other as rice costs of heroes^^ so i could see in keep after few hours i get the logarithm
I am not much into programming but what I get from here is that you find a dependency between rice cost and hp of the units and you use this dependency as a coefficient to fing each unit's hit points... is that right ??? Cuz if that is your way I fear that it could be wrong... I mean more rice may be less hitpoints for some unit but higher dmg value... for instance Tao is 250 rice and you wrote that he had a booming 675 hp which I personly dont believe... Can you tell us how exactly did you find out the values ?? They may be right after all and btw thanks for the hard work It was helpful I wonder if damage chart could be done ;] | |
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[BRAS][Mage]Crow
Anzahl der Beiträge : 61 Anmeldedatum : 2009-11-19 Alter : 33
| Subject: Re: health points of the units Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:20 am | |
| first of all taos costs are 1507400/1 now the main: i needed anything, were i can see the dacimal values directly so i changed in example the rice cost for taro ( 250 - FA00 ) to 0100 then i go to keep, look and see ahhh 0100 = 1 or 8004 = 1152 when i replace the original hex-value with another one, i can see the decimal value, the translation from hex-> decimal direct thats the only meaning but i dont want to look up every single hex-value, so i try to found out the logarithm behind them there isnt any linkage between rice and health again: i just use it, to get to know the decimal value | |
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