How can I beat lotus in very long game? ( with any clan{no lotus xD})

Plz tell me someone what have to do vs lotus (in 1v1) in very long game, like after a lost rush..
with any clan without lotus..

hmm i think in long game :

Wolf, no chance
Dragon no chance to but bit better then wolf because guardians
Serpent has the best chance but i think the chance is still lower than 50%

well otus is my problem to thats why itry to kill lotus in fast game.
In long game hmmm sniper in back 2 bandits with stun staying in your army, a lot of smoke but not all placed at one place because of sc.
Then u need tower they could do the main work if u mug or vet the lotus. If u attack try to get the stamina of lotus as fast as u can dont wait or something because lotus is a clan wich needs time.

Always smoke before u vet and u have taken the stamina send utara because lotus army is mostly at one place so u can stun a lot and dont let him get new dc.

This is the best i know xC but its still very hard

ya this is perfect right, but this still hard, how u sad. xD

it isnt perfect ... lotus can drain stamina too, with death wail
and a good lotus player keep always sc,heroes and 1-2 dc behind the army
furthermore there should be always 1-2 goos in front of the main units
soo, when the lotus player keeps goo and use death wail of diseased ones its much
harder for serpent
in a very long game lotus got problably st, one problem more....
at last i agree, its very hard...

maybe dragon can beat lotus with much guardians, which come from every side to stun the lotus army,
so dragon can make 1-2 df.... but this needs unnormal luck xD

ya luck the best help vs long lotus xD
and death wail really .. i forgot that..
so i think if u play vs good lotus palyer, with lotus, u have 10% chance .. maybe...

no need death wail because this take concentrate ur focus

cocktail told all right

MW is not problem for serp (easy to mugg them, smoke and mug )
MW is problem for wolf

main problem SC
serp need mugg them, and then go attack and kill
and other problem lotus's healers (kill them first when fighting )

and Yvaine - u must ever drain her in attack because when she(haste with issyl) it's hard


and dragon cant anyway
guardians so slower than SC

what is MW? xD
modern warfare ftw xD

ah
MW - master warlock + bg magical ball

oh yes thats called st soul trester

but i have a good idea for dragon
u make some stun for guards, and go with them, stun, u must stun all of dc and now get him surprise with a little df
dc, disease, unclean healer and everything (only warlock and heroes no) die. and now u can go with longer ranged archers to kill warlock just worry for sc.

but this alredy told crow.. and i think before this is the best of these..
mug is easy to defeat with death wail..
and smoke is really not problem
so in my opinion dragon better vs lotus than serpent
and wolf really havent chance cuz its ok to use drui vs dc, but wen u do this, sc is coming and kill all of ur drui.. :S and mostly balllistamen.. they enough maybe 3 and die

lol no dragon is no way the best vs serpent, u jsut need tos end the mug and while the mug is running smoke a lot of times after 1 or 2 times u will have mugged the deat wail, if u smoke good the mug will be alive and u can try it again after hal min u will mug the deat wail for sure

here is one good way to kill lotus.. you need: MUGs, SNipes, Smoke and heroes(if u had)

Snipes are always at the back..

1. smoke, muG
2. kill brothers using the snipes. (by killing them) they can't bless their staff
3. keep on mugging till they got no dc.
4. then make ur canons kill them..
5. before they back up, use taro, utara.
6. don't let your vet die..